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The Echo from Cool Vapes:
a beautiful, automatic MEGA fat batt<\/CENTER>"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"1300[photo courtesy of www.elcigg.se<\/a>]<\/p>\n

Last week, JohnnyBass of Cool Vapes<\/a><\/strong> (a brand new supplier and one of the handful that carries this model), sent me a chrome 1300 mAh Kr8\/901-compatible Echo<\/strong> (plus an eGo-compatible Echo-e cartomizer) to review. Although I will mention the other sizes and versions, this is a review of that 1300 mAh \u201cEcho.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

I did not pay for it, but probably would have purchased one anyway, because I\u2019ve been intrigued by all that I\u2019ve read about it, e.g., in txtumbleweed\u2019s The New Echo<\/strong><\/a> review thread.<\/p>\n

For the past several days, I\u2019ve been putting the Echo through its paces and I am very impressed<\/strong>. It may not be everything<\/em> I want in a PV, but it is a lot<\/em> of things \u2026 including some that are not to be found in any other<\/em> e-cig.<\/p>\n

So what is it?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

In broad strokes, the Echo<\/strong> (1300 mAh size) is kinda like an iGo with an automatic<\/strong> battery, i.e., it is a long Kr8\/901-compatible fat batt with high mAh and 3+ ml capacity cartomizer. [Unfortunately (for the sake of this review), I\u2019ve not used the iGo, so I can make no comparative comments on their respective performance.] In addition to the automatic battery, another obvious difference is a large<\/strong> red LED<\/strong><\/span> at the end of the Echo batt: Beep beep, comin\u2019 through!<\/em><\/p>\n

\"iGo[iGo photo (prior to my markup) courtesy of NHaler<\/a>.]<\/p>\n

It\u2019s manufactured by Hangsen<\/a>, located \u2013 in of all places \u2013 China. \ud83d\ude09 Not as big a name as say, Joye or Sailebao, but then who had heard of Smok Tech until recently.<\/p>\n

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The cartomizer<\/strong> is one of the new generation of mega capacity ones like the Leo, Go-Go, iGo, and Get-Up-and-Go (I made up the last one). According to Hangsen, the Echo carto utilizes a \u201cnew technical breakthrough \u2013 Cup shaped matrix to get rid of the burnt smell of atomizer\/cartomizer following e-liquid depletion.\u201d<\/p>\n

Here is Hangsen\u2019s video demonstration of that \u201cCup shaped matrix\u201d \u2026 along with other features of the Echo. [FYI: Listening to the computer synthesized speech alone is worth the investment of two minutes of your your time.\"laugh]<\/p>\n

Hangsen demo video<\/a><\/p>\n

Hangsen further states that it is \u201crefillable with e-liquid for over hundred times.\u201d I\u2019ve not had mine long enough to confirm, but my first carto still tastes good and performs well after several refills and top offs.<\/p>\n

\"EchoNotice the non-recessed battery connection.<\/p>\n

Although the Echo carto has a Kr8\/901 battery connection, it takes an 801 mouthpiece. It is 2.8\u03a9 (+\/-.1) resistance and holds 3 ml of e-liquid, however users have said that \u2013 unlike most capacity claims \u2013 3 ml is conservative<\/em>. [But see my comment about flavor and topping off under \u201cCons.\u201d]<\/p>\n

The batteries<\/strong> are regulated 3.7V (i.e., ~3.7V, not 4.2V, hot off the charger) and are available in 650 mAh, 1100 mAh, or 1300 mAh.<\/p>\n

\"1300[composite photo courtesy of Northwest Vapors<\/a>]<\/p>\n

That 2.8\u03a9 and 3.7V generates ~5 watts of power (i.e., intensity of the vape): about a half watt more than a standard resistance 2.3\u03a9 510 atty on a 3.2V eGo. So: decent, but not overwhelming. The amps current generated is much less than an LR atty or carto on the eGo. [FYI: High current is what fries atomizers and mosfets. For more information about volts\/ohms\/watts\/amps, see this article<\/a>.]<\/p>\n

The 1300 mAh battery yields an assembled unit the same 14mm diameter as an eGo and about a quarter inch longer than my 155mm DSE801 penstyle, so say about 165mm. I use this approximation, since I don\u2019t own a metric ruler and since the information on the Hangsen site \u2013 137mm \u2013 obviously is way off. [I\u2019ve seen this kind of thing before on manufacturers\u2019 websites. Are metric measurements different in China than elsewhere?]<\/p>\n

\"steel[The above is stainless steel<\/em> (available somewhere in the world, I suppose). It is not<\/strong> the chrome<\/em> Echo that Cool Vapes<\/a> sells.]<\/p>\n

The 112mm shown on their site for the 650 mAh unit may be closer to the truth (but still on the low side). I don\u2019t have one, but it\u2019s probably slightly longer than the eGo-T.<\/p>\n

\"blackHere is Scott Bonner\u2019s review of that 650 mAh size. [NOTE: The cartos in Scott\u2019s demo kit from the manufacturer were prefilled. The cartos in kits sold by U.S. suppliers like Cool Vapes<\/a> are blank.]<\/p>\n

Scott Bonner Echo 650 review<\/a><\/p>\n

\u201cEcho\u201d (shown on the left of the three cartomizers below) is the Kr8\/901-compatible version. \u201cEcho-e\u201d (in the center) is the eGo compatible (but also uses an 801-sized mouthpiece). [NOTE: The Echo-e\u2019s juice capacity is somewhat less than the Echo\u2019s.] Supposedly, there also is a VGO-compatible \u201cEcho-v\u201d (shown on the right) but exactly what that means and who carries it, I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n

\"Echo<\/a><\/p>\n

Cool Vapes<\/a> carries the Echo and Echo-e: in chrome or black \u2026 and at 650, 1100 or 1300 mAh. [NOTE: As I write this, his current<\/em> stock is more limited, but the complete lineup will be in shortly.] Each kit includes two batteries, two cartomizers, USB charger, AC adapter, and requisite mini instruction manual. Johnny supplements that manual with some relevant additional information and tips … including recommended suppliers of e-liquid, which he does not sell. The 650 mAh kits are $50; 1100 mAh are $55; 1300 mAh for $60. [I regard the price for the 650 mAh kit as quite reasonable; $60 for the 1300 mAh kit is a steal!]<\/p>\n

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Cartomizers sell for $5; somewhat less when purchasing five or more. Certainly more than most cartomizers, but \u2013 considering their capacity (and potential for a great many refills) \u2013 not bad. Spare batteries are not yet available.<\/p>\n

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Pros and Cons<\/strong><\/h3>\n

No PV is perfect (at least in my experience) or certainly for every vaper. Here is what I<\/strong> think are the strengths and weaknesses of this one.<\/p>\n

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Pros:<\/strong><\/span><\/h4>\n